Life has been busy, i am as usually working on bit projects. I figured i will post some of my thoughts on the community and what i see happening.
Big companies like Love systems, RSD are getting hurt, it easy to see from the way they send out newsletters. Pickup and dating coaching is as luxury as it gets. Small and medium size companies are closing, after finding out that pick up is much much harder industry then it is in good times.
As i have predicted there is a lot more 1on1 concentration in community now, especially among small and medium players. The latest thing i have seen some guys do is give seminar and asking to donate or decided if they want to pay or not upon completion. This is what i call desperation, it means past sales strategies are not working.
I was also right about pick up guys moving to call themselves dating coaches, in fact it is going further then that, it is as if some companies want to leave pick up artist names behind all together. I dont know if some of them read my blog, or came to conclusion themselves but the move to dating coach term is very obvious.
In new york i see profilifration of small groups, my nyc wingmen used to be one of the few, but in the past year i have seen at least 10-15 new groups get started. That is a big difference. Cheap events seem to be the rage right now, seens you don't have to be good enough to teach, but you can still organize meetings and then maybe start teaching once you have solid following.
What i saw last year was panic in pick up community, as recession took hold, dating coaching while important is not food or sleep, it can wait. Thats what i see guys do now, they wait. Or if he cant wait he might do only one workshop, instead of do a few to see what is better for him.
Pick up artist didn't became a glamorous term and it never will.
Saturday, January 30, 2010
Thursday, August 27, 2009
Some Domain Names for Pick Up and Dating Coach for Sale.
My partners and me decided to start selling some domain names we own, since we think it will do more good for people out there to develop them rather then us holding them.
Here you can see what other domains on pick up and dating coaching we have available, this is not our full list, please contact us for our full list or if you would like to find out more about one of the listed domain names. To find out more just simply respond to this post, you post will to be shown to public in this thead. All requests and offers will be kept privet and confidental.
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Sarging.Us
AlphaPickUp.com
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PickUpBooks.com
PickUpBodyLanguage.com
IamPua.com
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Sunday, June 14, 2009
Me been gone long time. ;)
Sorry guys and gals, has been busy and not in the posting mind set. But now ready to post my thoughts.
Few things, pick up will never be big movement. It will be very big underground movement, but that's where it will stay, underground. Pick up gurus and wannabes, will have to move to larger movement, which is a dating coach, or be left underground, where the growth will be limited.
I covered before why its happening, and i was right, at the time it was just a prediction, it is turning to be right on the money.
Here is what i am seeing now in pick up community, more and more pick up guys, are renaming themselves into dating coaches. I am seeing women writing articles, about how to use pick up ideas, to establish value. I cant find the link to the article, but i seen it recently, where a woman used lingo of neging to raise her value over guy in flirting article.
I think people just becoming better aware of the social interactions. Consciously aware.
Over abundance of pick up "gurus" since most of those who say that, are not, is becoming clear, thought big and prominent once are still at the top. Here in NYC i see guys left and right announcing themselves next mysteries and promising to lead you on the path to great success with women. Then disappear few month later. Which means that people who are trully good and stick around will be far better positioned then people who come to "hit it and quit it". I have seen probably a dozen pick up guys open and close shop in past few years. Skill level of them varied, but in general most are confident but not very good.
Heck, it took me long enought to become really long time to be good at coaching, and i still learn something new every day.
Recession didnt affect people as i thought it would, people who need coaching, still will come to get it, and those who did't still don't. Thought some should. I might be taking steps to start branch into speed dating corner of the market, though it is pretty cut throat right now, so it will take some preparation.
I am seeing more women interested in coaching, which is very interesting. Mostly due to new VH1 show where a guy teaching women how to improve their social interactions.
Few things, pick up will never be big movement. It will be very big underground movement, but that's where it will stay, underground. Pick up gurus and wannabes, will have to move to larger movement, which is a dating coach, or be left underground, where the growth will be limited.
I covered before why its happening, and i was right, at the time it was just a prediction, it is turning to be right on the money.
Here is what i am seeing now in pick up community, more and more pick up guys, are renaming themselves into dating coaches. I am seeing women writing articles, about how to use pick up ideas, to establish value. I cant find the link to the article, but i seen it recently, where a woman used lingo of neging to raise her value over guy in flirting article.
I think people just becoming better aware of the social interactions. Consciously aware.
Over abundance of pick up "gurus" since most of those who say that, are not, is becoming clear, thought big and prominent once are still at the top. Here in NYC i see guys left and right announcing themselves next mysteries and promising to lead you on the path to great success with women. Then disappear few month later. Which means that people who are trully good and stick around will be far better positioned then people who come to "hit it and quit it". I have seen probably a dozen pick up guys open and close shop in past few years. Skill level of them varied, but in general most are confident but not very good.
Heck, it took me long enought to become really long time to be good at coaching, and i still learn something new every day.
Recession didnt affect people as i thought it would, people who need coaching, still will come to get it, and those who did't still don't. Thought some should. I might be taking steps to start branch into speed dating corner of the market, though it is pretty cut throat right now, so it will take some preparation.
I am seeing more women interested in coaching, which is very interesting. Mostly due to new VH1 show where a guy teaching women how to improve their social interactions.
Thursday, December 25, 2008
Dating in Society is changing ?
I have heard before people say, we are smarter now then ever before, and the case is, we really arent smarter. We have fancier technology, but mind wise we are same to people in 1000Bc and 0 Ad and 1000 AD. If you take any person from that time as baby and raise him in our world, he or she might look a bit different, but will be as inteligent as us. Some one have recently suggested me a book from 1937 on seduction. We are talking over 70 years ago., the name of the book "Lets Make Marry". A very interesting look into dating in early 20th century. Its more of a funny book, then dating advice, but it shows sociological views in meeting and dating of that period.
What is very interesting, and i dont think we give it much thought at all, how meeting and dating has existed since well, ever. There might be some arranged marriages in places like India, but over all there had to be 2 reasons for marriage and procreation. Survival (aka money, support, provider) and feelings (love, seduction, dating). How it was done, surely was different, but it has existed for ever. There are a lot more of "dance steps" now, since we don't have to work from dusk till dawn and therefore have more leisure time. It is very different then it was even 100 years ago, but everyone is in same boat, so nothing really changed, since while 100 years ago there might have been no online or very few phones, no one else had online or phones, so it was even for everyone. People who were active met more. Similarly now, we have online and phones, but so is everyone else have them.
I've been asked before, who has advantage in dating men or women. I will answer this question as i have answered it before. It is a very dumb question. This is not competition, men want to meet women and women want to meet men, guys have to approach, girl want relationship. It is not a competition, and if you dating someone and feel that it is too much effort, then chances are you shouldn't be dating that person. Same goes for meeting, if you approach a girl and it conversation feels like someone is pulling your teeth, then you should walk away, you will be doing yourself a favor.
What is very interesting, and i dont think we give it much thought at all, how meeting and dating has existed since well, ever. There might be some arranged marriages in places like India, but over all there had to be 2 reasons for marriage and procreation. Survival (aka money, support, provider) and feelings (love, seduction, dating). How it was done, surely was different, but it has existed for ever. There are a lot more of "dance steps" now, since we don't have to work from dusk till dawn and therefore have more leisure time. It is very different then it was even 100 years ago, but everyone is in same boat, so nothing really changed, since while 100 years ago there might have been no online or very few phones, no one else had online or phones, so it was even for everyone. People who were active met more. Similarly now, we have online and phones, but so is everyone else have them.
I've been asked before, who has advantage in dating men or women. I will answer this question as i have answered it before. It is a very dumb question. This is not competition, men want to meet women and women want to meet men, guys have to approach, girl want relationship. It is not a competition, and if you dating someone and feel that it is too much effort, then chances are you shouldn't be dating that person. Same goes for meeting, if you approach a girl and it conversation feels like someone is pulling your teeth, then you should walk away, you will be doing yourself a favor.
Friday, November 28, 2008
Kicking ass and taking numbers
Few people know that i used to do and teach martial arts for quiet some time, one of the most efficient and effective types too. What i found that a person cant just be intellectual without feeling adrenaline, feeling energy surge through him. I have been finding myself too soft lately, out of touch with my energy. I haven't trained seriously in martial arts for over a year, i do still train on occasion , but its a joke compared to what its trully needed. Same goes for dating, if you out of touch with your energy ,then you are out of touch with yourself. You cant date and connect because it is not you who they meeting, but a weaker shell. It is time to get out of my intectualized self, and go back to raw self, i feel me and my body needs it. I need to kick some ass.
Sunday, November 16, 2008
A musing about nothing
I was browsing quoters of Bernard Shaw, a famous irish playwright of 19th century (1851-1944) and saw a man give review of a play of bernard shaw, in pretty good manner until this point:
"Shaw has a lot of other standard types of characters you encounter in literature and theatre such as the poetic, effeminate young man who falls for the older married woman. Shaw also creates a rebel who is actually shown in a better light than a pastor. His women characters can be either strong or silly. In Man and Superman, he seems to suggest that the man who is romantic and worships women never marries, but the man who is cynical about them ends up getting the girl. Is he right? I didn't really think so. I thought women liked men who worshipped them."
We are talking about all this change and dating, and how rules of dating change. Yet, rules of dating are still same, in 1800s it was as now. We are still run by the most basic wiring that there is. Unavailable is and has always been an aphrodisiac to our brain. Sure, the methods of how we meet and date have changed, but our psychological wiring has been with us since birth of humans, and nothing will changed it untill there are human beings still roaming this planet. If anything dating became more complex, it introduced more layers. Thats why dating coaches are coming out of the wood works, meeting is easier then ever right now(online, mobile), but meeting and connecting has changed, adding more to complexities.
Here are some Quotes of George Bernard Shaw:
"Shaw has a lot of other standard types of characters you encounter in literature and theatre such as the poetic, effeminate young man who falls for the older married woman. Shaw also creates a rebel who is actually shown in a better light than a pastor. His women characters can be either strong or silly. In Man and Superman, he seems to suggest that the man who is romantic and worships women never marries, but the man who is cynical about them ends up getting the girl. Is he right? I didn't really think so. I thought women liked men who worshipped them."
We are talking about all this change and dating, and how rules of dating change. Yet, rules of dating are still same, in 1800s it was as now. We are still run by the most basic wiring that there is. Unavailable is and has always been an aphrodisiac to our brain. Sure, the methods of how we meet and date have changed, but our psychological wiring has been with us since birth of humans, and nothing will changed it untill there are human beings still roaming this planet. If anything dating became more complex, it introduced more layers. Thats why dating coaches are coming out of the wood works, meeting is easier then ever right now(online, mobile), but meeting and connecting has changed, adding more to complexities.
Here are some Quotes of George Bernard Shaw:
- A day's work is a day's work, neither more nor less, and the man who does it needs a day's sustenance, a night's repose and due leisure, whether he be painter or ploughman.
- A fashion is nothing but an induced epidemic.
- A fool's brain digests philosophy into folly, science into superstition, and art into pedantry. Hence University education.
- A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful than a life spent doing nothing.
- A lifetime of happiness! No man alive could bear it; it would be hell on earth.
- Americans adore me and will go on adoring me until I say something nice about them.
- An American has no sense of privacy. He does not know what it means.There is no such thing in the country.
Sunday, November 2, 2008
About Nice guys, random thoughts
First thing first, its important to put in context of what i think are nice guys. So that way we are on same page. Nice guy to me is someone, who is confused by women and afraid to take a step without getting approval from that woman first. In fact, as time passes, the severity of being nice guy becomes even more acute, as they over think every (real or hypothetical) interaction with a woman. By severity, i mean being in their own head. Its very hard to be creative human being, when there is fear of taking a step around woman, so they start to tippy toe.
I do not know if thats good or bad, but it certainly current condition of dating. Where guys ask, but if she doesn't like that i say? never ending concern about what woman will think. To that i have only one answer, yes, but what if you dont like what she says. Why not listen first? It is trully vice versa experience, and not one way street where guy has to please.
As far as dating coach and pick up community, while it certanly have taken great strides from its new born form, it is still far and away only hap hazard growth at best. There are three reasons for it. One, many guys still think that dating skill is purely inheretant, and it will come to them sooner or later and so they shine improving their dating skill conciously (women on the other hand, truly polish their dating skills to almost art, but no one talks about it.) Second reason, people still dont belive that this change is possible. Third, men assume that it is monipulative, someone has to lose for another to win (media tend to concentrate on this one). Sadly, there is some truth to the later argument, due to the ways some puas teach more manipulative methods. These 3 reasons make up majoroity of reasons for slow movement toward majority of single guy population . There is fourth invisible reason, and thats lack of social approval and lack of political correctnes, everything should be fair, media screams. They don't care that there are millions of single guys, who feel like shit and dont know what to do about it.
Unlike online dating, or speed dating, both of which enjoyed a superb growth, i am noticing significant slow down in growth of interest about pick up. The reasons i listed above are explanation to it. Lack of political correctness is the hidden and biggest road block. Here is an example, Goth music and style, it has following but its not cool and had bad stigma, therefore while in its own nitch there are famous singers, clubs, music, etc. It has very little reach into general public. This is a rought example, but it somewhat comperable analogy.
I do not know if thats good or bad, but it certainly current condition of dating. Where guys ask, but if she doesn't like that i say? never ending concern about what woman will think. To that i have only one answer, yes, but what if you dont like what she says. Why not listen first? It is trully vice versa experience, and not one way street where guy has to please.
As far as dating coach and pick up community, while it certanly have taken great strides from its new born form, it is still far and away only hap hazard growth at best. There are three reasons for it. One, many guys still think that dating skill is purely inheretant, and it will come to them sooner or later and so they shine improving their dating skill conciously (women on the other hand, truly polish their dating skills to almost art, but no one talks about it.) Second reason, people still dont belive that this change is possible. Third, men assume that it is monipulative, someone has to lose for another to win (media tend to concentrate on this one). Sadly, there is some truth to the later argument, due to the ways some puas teach more manipulative methods. These 3 reasons make up majoroity of reasons for slow movement toward majority of single guy population . There is fourth invisible reason, and thats lack of social approval and lack of political correctnes, everything should be fair, media screams. They don't care that there are millions of single guys, who feel like shit and dont know what to do about it.
Unlike online dating, or speed dating, both of which enjoyed a superb growth, i am noticing significant slow down in growth of interest about pick up. The reasons i listed above are explanation to it. Lack of political correctness is the hidden and biggest road block. Here is an example, Goth music and style, it has following but its not cool and had bad stigma, therefore while in its own nitch there are famous singers, clubs, music, etc. It has very little reach into general public. This is a rought example, but it somewhat comperable analogy.
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